ucntkilme wrote:While I agree with this post to an extent I also disagree.. So here is my rant on this subject
Being the CEO / CTO of a "large internet company" is of no consequence when it comes to the goings on in eve. The problem here is not what you do for a living, it's what you can't do in practice... I agree that calling an issue such as this "operator error". is false and has been the stance of CCP and most of it's player base for far too long
The loader is great in theory and idea. However, it does fail in execution. If it were 1 localized exception of it not working, then things might be a bit different but there are many people that have been having issues getting it to run at all. This is not due to themselves as users, or even the type of machine you are running on..
There just wasn't enough testing done on this, and if there was I didn't know about it until it came out and I had to spend 4 hours figuring it out in order to make it work for me - on 2 different computers and 12 different eve installations (8 on 1 and 4 on the other). But, it ended up working and I got in game and was able to begin my skill training again..
Now I didn't actually want to post about the loader in this rant because that's not the driving force behind me logging in to post at all. The reason for me posting is the whole "CEO/CTO" thing that the OP holds so near and dear
Being a CEO doesn't mean that you understand anything about code or anything of the sort. Being a CTO doesn't even mean that (yes I know what CTO is supposed to know).. "Large Internet Company" could be anything. You could be the CEO of amazon.com, but that doesn't mean that you know anything about software development.
Hell, you could be the CEO of blizzard entertainment, but that doesn't mean you know anything about the software development methods that CCP uses. In the software development game, there are multiple ways of going about doing the same thing.. Sometimes CCP excels, and sometimes they fail horribly sure... But it still doesn't mean that they need to be bombarded by useless posts on the forums such as this one..
I think that the real purpose behind the OP, wasn't to degrade CCP or the loader for not working -- but just another immature little boy trying to raise the e-peen flag. At least that's what it seems like to me. So if i'm feeding into it, my apologies. But really man, no one gives a **** if you're CEO of microsoft or other large company - it doesn't matter and isn't a term that exudes knowledge. Anyone can be a CEO, even a CEO of a successful company. It literally means nothing when it comes to this game..
I myself am a CEO, I don't claim to the best or the smartest there ever was -- nor do I even begin to grasp the understanding of "Software Development" to the level that CCP has shown us. My company merely does web development, it's new - its small... But me being CEO doesn't mean jack **** here.
If you are truely CEO and think that you / your team can do better -- then do it.. Simple as that... We have EVE now it's your turn to shut the **** up about your supposed 'social status' and bring out the game: ADAM (yes it's a biblical reference - no im not religious just thought it'd be funny to being able to respond to the question "what game do you play?" - "oh i play ADAM & EVE"
So until you actually go through the physical steps that CCP has gone through over the past few years, putting out a piece of software to the extent that CCP has done it over the years.. Or having to deal with whiny bitches like yourselves and half of the forums every time something doesn't work (me included sometimes) claiming to know how to do it better.. Then shut the **** up already..
CCP does a damn good job at what they do. Sure they are misguided plenty, but the end result is a good product that I for one am happy to pay for.. So give them credit where credit is due, instead of trying to belittle them constantly pointing out every single flaw in 1000's of posts on the forums... CCP has put out one hell of a game, so thanks CCP... And even though I had issues with the loader and spent 4 hours trying to figure out how to make it work -- i like the idea of it..
enjoy.
Finally a sane response.
Me stating the work that i do has nothing to do with arrogance, which is hard to believe for most of the people here, judging your reactions.
I just know how hard it is to keep a difficult technical system up and running and how much effort should be invested in testing stuff. Not testing stuff has costed my company dearly in the past as well.
ucntkilme also had to spend 4 hours to get his stuff working again. The whole point is that it is extremely strange that you release software that causes these kind of bugs to happen in the first place.
Getting the client back up and running will probably work eventually with changing a whole load of setting and reinstalling the program myself too.
It is just very strange that these things happen in the first place, thats why CCP, in my opinion, should get its act together and rethink the way the work.